@EmpirePhoenix said:
I would chekc if a z68 or z77 chipset and a i5 + a 64gb ssd as ssd cache wouldnt be cheaper (and faster)
-> 64 gb would be enouhg as ssd cahcing only keeps files often accesed randomly on it.
I use ssd caching on a 1tb hdd, and find the effect to be very close to having everything installed directly ona large ssd.
(Also depending one the ocz model they either have or have not a 3,5 adapter packaged with, doublechekc if the one you purchase has one)
I think you might be able to safe a few euros there dependiing on where you live
Include a ssd, recycle the hdd from you current one, and you shouuld be able to be around 650ā¬ for a slightly faster pc. As I used a few somewhat expensive components, that could be replaced with cheaper ones (like tower+powersupply) Also prices should be a bit lower by now I assume. -> Especially the cpu
thanks for the awesome advice! I had a look for the z68 and i5-2500k, the prices are still similar to yours (actually a bit more expensive :P), not sure i can afford it though :'( and i don't currently have a desktop so can't reuse anything :(
@sbook said:
Just a heads up, the motherboard will come with SATA cables.
Do you have an optical drive to install Windows from? The internal drives are pretty cheap, it shouldn't kill your budget.
okkies good to know :)
ah yeh oops, forget that :(
thanks for the awesome advice! I had a look for the z68 and i5-2500k, the prices are still similar to yours (actually a bit more expensive ), not sure i can afford it though :ā( and i donāt currently have a desktop so canāt reuse anything
Hm, your right, just looked them up, and they havent gone down (Expected them to be since new generation is out).
I would stoll look for ssd cache solutions, as I first had the os installed on the ssd directly in my older pc, and I had the constant problem of isntall on ssd vs install on hdd. (like install eclipse and my workspace on ssd (10gb+ wiht assets) and have great speed or on hdd, actually onla like 500 mb at most is frequently accessed and most of it only sequential (like for example every textzure and model is, mostly the compiling and the db is faster , but that it)
The pro of not having to care what to put on the ssd and trim windows down byte by byte when it starts to grow is a real advantage. (there are other solution than the intel one, that should work with amd boards as well, I would say a 64gb ssd in a ssd cache is preferable to a 128gb one with only like have of your stuff accelerated)
didnāt know about that ssd cache, sounds good! i will look at 64gb ssd, and then bulk storage on a normal hdd. I will need to do more research, thanks
I want to add that a i5 2500k is just neccessary when you want to overclock (thats the K for). Without the K itās again ~10 ā¬ cheaper.
Another intel solution could be this one: Intel Xeon E3-1230. Itās an i7 without any graphics chip and therefore much cheaper. And with a 160 ā¬ graphics card you do not need any āintel hd graphicsā. Itās ājustā 10 ā¬ more than the i5 2500k. Iām very pleased with that processor.
In general Intel processors really rule the market in terms of performance but AMD processors have a great performance/pricing relation so itās possible you chose wisely in your first list.
Only a SSD with 120 GB without any HDD is really not to recommend I thinkā¦ 120 GB are used faster than you can watch^^
PS: I recommend comparing prices. These ebuyer prices are all higher than german amazon prices and even those where higher than the best prices (unfortunately the best site seems not to have an english translation^^). But maybe everything is more expensive in GB.
This is where i got mine, http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/index.htm Its dirt cheap, you ābuildā a virtual pc & it tells you if everything is compatible, then it ships it all to you, you build it yourself.
@javagame said:
This is where i got mine, http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/index.htm Its dirt cheap, you 'build' a virtual pc & it tells you if everything is compatible, then it ships it all to you, you build it yourself.
cool, nice site :)
@EmpirePhoenix said:
Keep in midn, that not every ssd can be used as a cache (in theory yes, but not praktically)
-> Either you need on of the intel mainboards for ssd caching, then the mianboard driver handles this
-> Or you need a ssd that comes with software to support this (ocz synapse would be such one, around same price as the one you choose)
ah okkies, think i found one especially for caching, thanks for the warning
http://www.ebuyer.com/284735-ocz-64gb-synapse-cache-ssd-2-5-sata-iii-read-550mb-s-write-syn-25sat3-64g
@wezrule said: GPU
Gigabyte GTX 560 OC Edition 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/267865-gigabyte-gtx-560-oc-edition-1gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-mini-hdmi-pci-e-gv-n56goc-1gi
Ā£127
In my opinion, this is a much better deal than that Radeon. My GTX seems to handle whatever I throw at it.
The only upside to the ATI/AMD card would have been that shaders are buggier there... so you get to fix more problems on your own hardware. nVidia cards are very lenient. But I have an almost unnatural love for my for my GTX 460s. :)
Be warned though about the SSD drives. There are numerous reports that many SSD fail after a year or so. Make sure you check the brand and read reports on its reliability. For the storage they offer theyāre still expensive.
I put everything together (making sure i discharged all static beforehand), the light on the power button lights up, but nothing happens. I stripped it down to just the power supply, motherboard and cpu + fan. Nothing happens, no beeps or spinning fan.
At the moment i have attached:
The 4 pin power to the cpu
Cpu fan connector to the āCPU_FANā slot
24 pin power to the motherboard
Iām stumped as what to do now have i missed something?
āPull everything except the CPU and HSF. Boot. You should hear a series of long single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence here indicates, in probable order, a bad PSU, motherboard, or CPU - or a bad installation where something is shorting and shutting down the PSUā
It might be i have some faulty hardware, but iām not sure how to check for this, i donāt have any voltmeters or specialist equipment, and I also bought things from different places as well. Just wondering in anyoneās experience if they have had any problems before, or have possible solutions and what i should do next. Iāve never done this before sorry
Did you buy the CPU and Main board separately? This could be an issue of the CPU not properly seated into the socket. Try removing the heat sink and fan and re-installing the CPU into the socket firmly. Usually iāll order a cpu and mb and have it tested before shipping, saves a bit of hassel.
Btw, does the CPU fan turn on when the power is turned on?
@normen said:
Its strange you hear no beeps. You sure you attached the cables the right way round? Btw you know my obvious answer to all this :P
I'm pretty sure they are attached correctly, as they have little indents in them to make sure it is put in correctly.
Yh i know :P too late now tho ^^
@lwsquad said:
Did you buy the CPU and Main board separately? This could be an issue of the CPU not properly seated into the socket. Try removing the heat sink and fan and re-installing the CPU into the socket firmly. Usually i'll order a cpu and mb and have it tested before shipping, saves a bit of hassel.
Btw, does the CPU fan turn on when the power is turned on?
Just a few things that popped into mind.
yeh i bought them separately. I removed the CPU once already put shall do it again :).
Not it doesn't turn on :( nothing happens
Gonna put it in again as you said, brb
Sounds like the board isnāt getting power, do you have the small power on switch plug plugged into the mb? Also the power supply that is plugged into the main boards might require a +4 plug in the atx power cord, some power supplies come with an additional +4 that snaps into the original factory atx power plug.
thx for the help and advice, I tried as you said, but still no luck I will try and steal one of my friends PSU, and also try mine on their computer, and see if power is the issue as you suggest, and that way maybe I can isolate the issue to either that or the motherboard itself. Will let you guys know what happens, thx again! <3
hopefully it will last 
