renanse i send you a private message but this is for anybody out there that thinks they can help.  I am getting into shaders and this is just a toss up question but is GLSL the best shader laungue to learn because i hear Cg and ARB will both be replaced by it.  My main question is could somebody post some any shader program or even make a list of what i'd need to do to apply glsl to my work(constructors,loading,appling).  Please awnser soon

Thanks Pat

Keep threads grouped.;topicseen

sorry I'm not always right there to get messages as they come in.  :)  Anyhow, see the other thread mojo references.  I'll put something up there.