@tirnithil said: Hey erlend,thats a good idea. We will try the deform bones in the next days, if they work as intended, we could have a chat with @atomix about this.
Also we have done interesting camera stuff for you, I just had no time to contribute it yet, sry. Time is short these days
That’s really nice, thank you both.
Just tell me if you have the solution for modifying the bone, I glad to hear
We made a testcase a few weeks ago and there was apparently no problem. So I think it will not be a great big deal. But, we will see 
@atomix: Our deform bones are working 
If you still want to have a chat about character customization, you can contact me via skype (Tirnithil) to arrange a meeting with me and Agares.
@tirnithil : Yes, of course. I will contact you via Skype. I really want to see how your character customization system work. I also have some ideas my self.
Hey folks, there a two little things I have to say:
First, we are still alive, and even if we totally overdid our schedule, we are still straight on course.
Second, since we will reach alpha real soon now, whose soul do I have to sacrifice to get Myrdragor as a JME Project, mentioned in the Projects Overview?
<summon>@erlend_sh</summon>
starts the chanting and praising
Well, this looks like a bit of thread hijacking ^^ Especially since we haven’t introduced our character creation system yet. I would have (and still do) loved to discuss this with you via skype, where we could show you some of our stuff and see some of yours (that sounds wierd^^), also I will not show our character customization here in the forums right now. We are a bit … shy on stuff that is that early.
I can tell you, that we have a small amount of everything that is in use in common games. Since our characters will have a rework till beta we stayed low on deformable bones … well, and stuff^^ We can resize the boobs, for sure
How did you create the minimap in the first pictures in this thread?
We used a top view camera rendered offscreen. We now use a different approach, but we can give you our old code:
[java]
package de.myrdragor.controller.appstates;
import com.jme3.app.Application;
import com.jme3.app.state.AppStateManager;
import com.jme3.bullet.control.CharacterControl;
import com.jme3.input.FlyByCamera;
import com.jme3.light.DirectionalLight;
import com.jme3.light.Light;
import com.jme3.light.LightList;
import com.jme3.math.ColorRGBA;
import com.jme3.math.Vector3f;
import com.jme3.post.FilterPostProcessor;
import com.jme3.renderer.Camera;
import com.jme3.renderer.ViewPort;
import com.jme3.texture.FrameBuffer;
import com.jme3.texture.Image.Format;
import com.jme3.texture.Texture;
import com.jme3.texture.Texture2D;
import com.jme3.water.WaterFilter;
import de.myrdragor.controller.MyrdragorApplication;
import de.myrdragor.controller.nifty.screencontroller.MainGame;
import de.myrdragor.controller.nifty.screencontroller.WorldEdit;
import de.myrdragor.model.spatial.node.debug.PieValue;
import java.awt.Color;
/**
*
@author Agares
*/
public class MinimapAppState extends AbstractMyrdragorAppState {
private Camera miniCam;
private ViewPort minimapVP;
private CharacterControl player;
private FlyByCamera flyCam;
private WaterFilter water;
private FilterPostProcessor fpp;
private FrameBuffer outBuf;
private Texture2D output;
private float updateTime;
/**
*
@param stateManager
@param app
*/
@Override
public void initialize(AppStateManager stateManager, Application app) {
super.initialize(stateManager, app);
this.app = (MyrdragorApplication) app;
if (this.app.getStateManager().getState(GameAppState.class) != null) {
player = this.app.getStateManager().getState(GameAppState.class).getPlayer();
}
flyCam = this.app.getFlyByCamera();
initMinimapViewPort();
initOverlay();
initFPP();
}
/**
*
@param stateManager
*/
@Override
public void stateDetached(AppStateManager stateManager) {
super.stateDetached(stateManager);
if (fpp != null) {
minimapVP.removeProcessor(fpp);
}
minimapVP.clearScenes();
minimapVP.setClearFlags(true, true, true);
app.getRenderManager().removeMainView(minimapVP);
miniCam = null;
}
@Override
public void update(float tpf) {
float init = app.getTimer().getTimeInSeconds();
super.update(tpf);
if (miniCam != null && minimapVP != null) {
if (!flyCam.isEnabled()) {
Vector3f camLoc = player.getPhysicsLocation().add(0, 400, 0);
miniCam.setLocation(camLoc);
} else {
Vector3f camLoc = app.getCamera().getLocation().add(0, 400, 0);
miniCam.setLocation(camLoc);
}
updateOverlay();
}
updateTime = app.getTimer().getTimeInSeconds() - init;
}
private void initMinimapViewPort() {
miniCam = new Camera(256, 256);
minimapVP = app.getRenderManager().createPreView("MinimapVp", miniCam);
minimapVP.setClearFlags(true, true, true);
minimapVP.setBackgroundColor(new ColorRGBA(0, 0, 0, 0));
// create offscreen framebuffer
outBuf = new FrameBuffer(256, 256, 1);
//setup framebuffer's cam
miniCam.setFrustumPerspective(45f, 1f, 1f, 1000f);
Vector3f camLoc = app.getCamera().getLocation().add(0, 400, 0);
miniCam.setLocation(camLoc);
miniCam.lookAtDirection(new Vector3f(0, -1, 0), new Vector3f(0, 0, -1));
//setup framebuffer's texture
output = new Texture2D(256, 256, Format.RGBA8);
output.setMinFilter(Texture.MinFilter.Trilinear);
output.setMagFilter(Texture.MagFilter.Bilinear);
//setup framebuffer to use texture
outBuf.setDepthBuffer(Format.Depth);
outBuf.setColorTexture(output);
//set viewport to render to offscreen framebuffer
minimapVP.setOutputFrameBuffer(outBuf);
minimapVP.attachScene(app.getRootNode());
}
private void updateOverlay() {
if (app.getDataHandler().getNifty().getCurrentScreen().getScreenController() instanceof MainGame) {
MainGame guiCtrl = (MainGame) app.getDataHandler().getNifty().getCurrentScreen().getScreenController();
guiCtrl.setCharViewDir(player.getViewDirection().clone());
}
}
public void initOverlay() {
if (app.getDataHandler().getNifty().getCurrentScreen().getScreenController() instanceof MainGame) {
MainGame guiCtrl = (MainGame) app.getDataHandler().getNifty().getCurrentScreen().getScreenController();
guiCtrl.setCharViewDir(player.getViewDirection().clone());
guiCtrl.setMinimapImage(output);
}
}
private void initFPP() {
DirectionalLight dl = null;
if (app.getStateManager().getState(WorldAppState.class) != null) {
LightList localLightList = app.getStateManager().getState(WorldAppState.class).getSceneNode().getLocalLightList();
for (Light light : localLightList) {
if (light instanceof DirectionalLight) {
dl = (DirectionalLight) light;
break;
}
}
}
if (dl == null && app.getStateManager().getState(WorldTileEditorAppState.class) != null) {
dl = app.getStateManager().getState(WorldTileEditorAppState.class).getDirectionalLight();
}
if (dl != null) {
water = new WaterFilter(app.getRootNode(), dl.getDirection());
fpp = new FilterPostProcessor(app.getAssetManager());
fpp.addFilter(water);
water.setWaveScale(0.003f);
water.setMaxAmplitude(2f);
water.setFoamExistence(new Vector3f(0.25f, 1f, 0.25f));
water.setDeepWaterColor(ColorRGBA.Brown);
water.setUnderWaterFogDistance(50);
water.setWaterColor(ColorRGBA.Brown.mult(1.2f));
water.setFoamTexture((Texture2D) app.getAssetManager().loadTexture("Common/MatDefs/Water/Textures/foam2.jpg"));
water.setWaterHeight(20);
minimapVP.addProcessor(fpp);
}
}
@Override
public PieValue getPerformanceinfo() {
return new PieValue(updateTime, Color.CYAN, “MinimapAppState”);
}
}
[/java]
And perhaps you’ll need those two methods from our nifty screen controller:
[java]
//Links the Rendered Offscreen Texture to Nifty Image Element
public void setMinimapImage(Texture2D output) {
if (output != null) {
minimapImage = new NiftyImage(nifty.getRenderEngine(), new RenderImageJme(output));
}
Element imgMinimap = screen.findElementByName("imgMinimap");
if (minimapImage != null) {
imgMinimap.getRenderer(ImageRenderer.class).setImage(minimapImage);
}
}
//Displays the correct Arrow Overlay for the View Direction
public void setCharViewDir(Vector3f clone) {
clone.y = 0;
clone.normalizeLocal();
float angleBetween = clone.angleBetween(Vector3f.UNIT_Z.mult(-1));
float dir = 0;
if (clone.x > 0) {
dir = angleBetween * 180 / FastMath.PI;
} else {
dir = angleBetween * 180 / FastMath.PI;
dir = 360 - dir;
}
float over = dir % 5;
dir -= over;
int id = Math.round(dir);
if (id != actPlayerDirId) {
actPlayerDirId = id;
Texture2D arrow = playerArrows.get(id);
if (arrow != null) {
RenderImageJme newImage = new RenderImageJme(arrow);
NiftyImage img = new NiftyImage(nifty.getRenderEngine(), newImage);
playerDirArrow.getRenderer(ImageRenderer.class).setImage(img);
} else {
Logger.getLogger(this.getClass().getName()).log(Level.WARNING, "Playerarrow with ID : {0} was not set.", id);
}
}
}
[/java]
Thank you.
What made you change approach - what is your new approach ? (no need for code, just the concept/idea)
The main reason is, that we want a dynamically drawn map, instead of a live map for our game. Also, there were some trust issues regarding the performance using an extra camera.
@nehon said: <summon>@erlend_sh</summon>wuh... what? Who dares wake me from my slumber! Oh hi Nehon, sup.
To be honest with you @tirnithil , the Projects section has been scheduled for deprecation (or re-purposing at least) for quite some time now, as I could never get it to work quite how I wanted it to.
If you want more eyes on your project you could write a guest article/tutorial for this site. A lot of people are interested in MMOs/Networking for instance.
@erlend_sh said: wuh... what? Who dares wake me from my slumber! Oh hi Nehon, sup.Dude....this is a friggin long cast time for a summon... Hopefully I wasn't wrestling with a mountain troll or i'd be dead long before you showed up... ;)
@nehon said: Dude....this is a friggin long cast time for a summon... Hopefully I wasn't wrestling with a mountain troll or i'd be dead long before you showed up... ;)
Dead, respawned, acquired new equipment, snuck back to death-site to see what of your original equipment is still lying around… repeat a few times. 
Well thanks @erlend_sh for clearing that up. And … while we wanted to share parts of our code for some time now, we lack the time to do so. Times are hard and busy the last month and … maybe in the future