Part in response to this post, I’ve written up a first draft for my ‘jmonkeyengine.com overhaul proposal’.
Please review and comment:
http://docs0.google.com/document/edit?id=1qNCs2qEUZU_rjgslnSnYiMVhL5Txrako2Xq5sulP7kE&hl=en#
Is there anyone out there who might be capable of creating any of these conversions? We should talk…
Hey, sorry we didnt keep you updated on this, but we are almost done with the preparations.
Only thing missing is a converter for dokuwiki to the html tag system that buddypress/wordpress use. A simple (php at best) script that converts single strings/files to the new markup would be all we need really to push this through.
Cheers,
Normen
P.S. Yes, and themes are the other thing, I think its true what yu say about buddypress (not bbpress, that is integrated in buddypress) specific themes, they have to be that: buddypress themes, not wordpress themes.
Like Normen said, bbPress is a non-issue because we're not using it separately, we're using the ready-integrated version inside of BuddyPress.
About the themes, we can't just use any Wordpress theme, no, but BuddyPress is still utilizing every one of Wordpress' standards. In the case of themes, a buddytheme is created by way of 'sub-themes' inside of an ordinary Wordpress one, to add the extra necessary elements without being some weird stand-alone ordeal.
Oh sorry I didn't post the comparisons. My research stretches over several months of testing the software and engaging in various communities. A small table of pros/cons just wouldn't have done my time spent justice 
BuddyPress' ability to work as a collaborative and social platform interchangeably is rather unique, and with Automattic's backing it's not going anywhere. The share speed at which we're moving towards a complete re-design should also speak to its strengths 
About the theme though, we're still assessing our options on that front. Something custom-made would be awesome of course, but that kind of (free) talent is hard to come by, especially for a relatively new platform.
normen wrote:
Hey, sorry we didnt keep you updated on this
erlend_sh wrote:
Oh sorry I didn't post the comparisons. My research stretches over several months of testing the software and engaging in various communities.
I was wondering if it was a case of pulling an idea out of a hat kind of deal ...good to know it wasn't the case tho :D
normen wrote:
buddypress themes, not wordpress themes
erlend_sh wrote:
(free) talent is hard to come by
monkey_scratches_head said:
(...) you may be able to get / find some talent willing to develop you a custom template in return for advertising, like a link to their site at the bottom of the page, ala the standard design by whoever (like 'bleedcrimson design' on this forum)
Yeah,
There are two angles really:
erlend_sh wrote:
(prospective theme customers visiting a 3D engine site?)
I agree, that's a bit dubious. After all how many people look on 3D sites for themes? That said, any development team / developer producing a 3D application product are more likely to outsource things like theme, purely due to it being a different skillset (cost / time thing).
erlend_sh wrote:
have their name on something big.
I think this one depends more on where the primary sales of their goods come from.
As you mentioned it'd make sense for web designers, or companies focusing on website development services
Take time and consideration when choosing plugins, they are of inconsistent quality and mixing them together can be a recipe for problems. It saves a lot of time and effort in the long run to be really picky about what you add to the mix, and get each one working perfectly before moving on - build up functions gradually while maintaining the quality of the site.
Hey monkeys,
we are still working on the details but a switch is very close I think. Everybody who wants to try around with a test install of the new site with the converted forum content can have a look here.
Only two of the old forums are listed right now, “Troubleshooting-General” and “User Code & Projects”. A redirect for old post URLs is installed in http://jmonkeyengine.bitwaves.de/forum/index.php and works with the “?topic=123456.0” get parameter of the old topic id (only for listed forums right now).
Also, I’d like to repeat my call for help on a proper dokuwiki markup conversion tool. Our dokuwiki uses text files for each page and a conversion would be very simple, only thing needed is the code for the markup conversion really.
Cheers,
Normen
i dont really see the advantage of the new forum, what are the benefits ?
Well ok a single login, better search etc are valid points.
Core-Dump said:
i dont really see the advantage of the new forum, what are the benefits ?
Well ok a single login, better search etc are valid points.
You might even hate the new forum at first because SMF is really powerful and some things will have to be improved in the new forum still but there are more reasons than unified login:
- unified data (search accross wiki, forum, posts etc.!)
- unified look/theme for the site
- easier for web admins to handle
- wordpress has many community features we inted to use in the future
- the SMF license sucks (you're not allowed to modify the PHP code oO)
Cheers,
Normen
Well I've finally take a look at the test install …and it's looking pretty good.
Obviously not particularly from an aesthetic PoV (a bit muted / plain for my tastes), but seem nice and functional.
Clearly I have a great deal of resistance to any form a change whatsoever, so the tab titled 'Group' will have to avoided until I'm willing to educated myself on this strange idea of groups
monkey_scratches_head said:
Well I've finally take a look at the test install ...and it's looking pretty good.
Obviously not particularly from an aesthetic PoV (a bit muted / plain for my tastes), but seem nice and functional.
Clearly I have a great deal of resistance to any form a change whatsoever, so the tab titled 'Group' will have to avoided until I'm willing to educated myself on this strange idea of groups
normen said:
Hey monkeys,
we are still working on the details but a switch is very close I think. Everybody who wants to try around with a test install of the new site with the converted forum content can have a look here.
Only two of the old forums are listed right now, "Troubleshooting-General" and "User Code & Projects". A redirect for old post URLs is installed in http://jmonkeyengine.bitwaves.de/forum/index.php and works with the "?topic=123456.0" get parameter of the old topic id (only for listed forums right now).
Also, I'd like to repeat my call for help on a proper dokuwiki markup conversion tool. Our dokuwiki uses text files for each page and a conversion would be very simple, only thing needed is the code for the markup conversion really.
Cheers,
Normen
How close are we to a switch to a new website now? Has anyone started on the dokuwiki conversion tool?
I've got time to spare, and am pretty good with Java, but don't have any knowledge of dokuwiki or the markup of the new wiki. If someone can give me a little bit of guidance, I'll see what I can do.
EDIT: Just noticed this over at namoo.co.uk:
erlendsh said 4 days, 11 hours ago:
During the past week or so, one of my project partners has been working on a conversion tool from DokuWiki to BP-Wiki. Please check it out:
http://code.google.com/p/doku2buddy/
BP-Wiki plays a big part in our brand new, fully integrated website, so this conversion tool means a lot. Testing would be highly appreciated. If you have any questions about the tool, I’ll try bring the author in here.
so I guess that means someones already started on it :D
Yep, Skye (sbook) is on it like one-of-those-algae-eating-fish-that-suck-on-to-bigger-fish!
erlend_sh said:
Yep, Skye (sbook) is on it like one-of-those-algae-eating-fish-that-suck-on-to-bigger-fish!
Lol, I've never heard that simile before, but that's good to hear :)
Its definitely being worked on… and definitely causing some quiet screaming in my head. I haven't slept in days, haven't shaved, no human contact. Outlook bleak, I'm all alone in the wilderness.
But at least I now know the Wordpress database structure in frighteningly intimate detail!