I’m trying to get the opposite rotation of a node. In my head using Euler angles, if I rotated a node 90 degrees on the X axis, the opposite would be -90 degrees - or negated. I was using `negate()`

, but then came across the `opposite`

method. What’s the fundamental difference? Is my assumption wrong that a negated Quaternion is not what I think it is? If it’s not the opposite - what is it?

# Quaternion.negate() vs Quaternion.opposite()

**jayfella**#1

**yaRnMcDonuts**#2

I’m not sure but now that I looked, there’s also an `inverse()`

method that I would also think does the same as negate and opposite, so now I’m interested as well.

The code behind all 3 methods looks different

```
public Quaternion opposite(Quaternion store) {
if (store == null) {
store = new Quaternion();
}
Vector3f axis = new Vector3f();
float angle = toAngleAxis(axis);
store.fromAngleAxis(FastMath.PI + angle, axis);
return store;
}
public Quaternion inverse() {
float norm = norm();
if (norm > 0.0) {
float invNorm = 1.0f / norm;
return new Quaternion(-x * invNorm, -y * invNorm, -z * invNorm, w
* invNorm);
}
// return an invalid result to flag the error
return null;
}
public void negate() {
x *= -1;
y *= -1;
z *= -1;
w *= -1;
}
```

**jayfella**#3

Well they all kinda seem to make sense in that they return the opposite but they all do it in different ways.

.negate() multiplies by -1

.opposite() adds 180 degrees

.inverse() uses a direction and negates it.

They all do the same thing but in a different way. I’d be interested for my own education if anything as to what each use-case is warranted.

**MoffKalast**#4

Hmm that negate one seems odd. I’ve always seen the quaternion conjugation/negation listed as only x y and z components inverted while w remained the same. Could be that there’s no difference I guess.

I had to look that up once when working on an older version of the glMatrix library where some moron defined it as everything times 1 which did nothing at all and I wasted hours of debugging because of it lol.

**pspeed**#5

inverse() is what you want.

opposite() is weird. While I can’t imagine why it won’t work in all cases I feel like it won’t work in all cases.

I think negate() doesn’t actually change the rotation since a q = -q in quaternion-land. I always imagined it was to flip them in case there was some reason some piece of code wanted to normalize the sign.