Community Update: Donations

I was curious why no expenses were showing up at Open Collective, so I asked around. Here’s the situation as I now understand it:

  1. So far, $207.72 of the AWS credits contributed by @adi.barda have been spent. Those expenses don’t go through Open Collective. The credits will expire in October.

  2. Before spending project funds on development incentives or bug bounties, there ought to be a proposal and a community discussion. That hasn’t occurred yet.


myself i agree with ANY decision you will make about expenses :slight_smile: also we all should donate more anyway.


I agree. I donate because I trust you to make good decisions about the use of that money. Transparency is good, but only you guys know what is truly needed.


I was curious about the tax status of the Open Collective. I found this:

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That’s not great news - unfortunately, to prevent creating tax issues for those routing the funds towards jME expenses, I think we’d need to pursue a 501(c) (which has all its own paperwork and oversight overheads) or some other form of corporation (though I rather doubt a corporation that’s not a non-profit would fit this community well at all). Neither of those make sense unless the flow of funds is pretty significant.

Interesting. Not a tax expert by any means, but been around the Self-employed/contract worker space most of my life. If the person handling these expenses is already in a tax situation where they are itemizing deductions, I’d expect that the entire amount that is passed on to AWS or other service providers could be written off as a business expense. Basically a net zero on the tax return. YMMV, and probably best to discuss with your tax accountant.

It says receipt reimbursements don’t count toward the $600 limit, so the AWS receipts can be reimbursed without having to worry about taxes. It seems like the only time they will email for tax info is if someone invoices $600 in one year (money paid out to an individual as income, which it looks like the jmonkey opencollective hasn’t done yet?)


That was my reading as well.


The AWS credits donated by @adi.barda were about to expire, so @RiccardoBlb recently switched us to a cheaper service provider (Hetzner Online GmbH) which should keep our hosting expenses low.

Way to go, Riccardo!


With October and November behind us, it’s clear that (with Hetzner) our monthly hosting expenses are trivial:

  • charged on 3 November: USD 4.70
  • charged on 3 December: USD 5.55

Compare those charges with our OpenCollective balance of USD 2,807.93 (as of 4 December).

There’s a Forum/Hub topic to discuss host migration and funding: Community Update: Host migration and funding

@xuan asked whether the project should consider buying a used Mac for testing: Next release of the Engine - #154 by xuan

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Not sure, which mac should we buy? Since they changed architecture recently afaik. How much will it cost?

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All I know about macs is they’re shiny and expensive.
But I think the new non-intel ones would be too costly for simply testing compatibility.

which mac should we buy?

I don’t know.

How much will it cost?

In the topic I referenced, both Intel-based and ARM-based macs were discussed, and I priced some used Intel-based macs. Apple’s ARM-based macs currently start at USD 999 (MacBook Air).

I would not get an Intel one for development. Apple is moving 100% to their ARM chips, if we want to reliably be able to test jme moving forward, it needs to be the new ARM ones.

In this particular instance, I would say that any mac purchased for jme development needs to be a decent machine. I would expect such a machine to cost roughly $1500 to $2000. I would not go cheap on one just to find that it does not have the necessary specs to provide a good test machine in the future.

I personally have been considering getting the macbook with the MAX edition of the arm chip for development work and testing. This is because it has several features that the PRO version of the ARM chip does not have, which would be useful for testing.

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Wouldn’t it be better if we were to rent a physical or cloud machine with the latest hardware for the time needed to test new releases?

For example Apple silicon M1 as-a-Service. Cloud Mac | Scaleway | Scaleway


sounds good. Better than buy physical machine that could not meet expectations.

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Hi, I started with JME about a week, and just finished my last tutorial!
Come from libGDX, and have some minimal experience with cryengine,
and Have to say this engine is really great! I love it, after a week i can easily do everything! so powerful , so easy, lot’s of actual real world examples! Thank you Team :slight_smile:
I wanted to donate but can’t use your donate solutions, please provide Payeer, Webmoney, or crypto like tron-usdt or BEP20 stable-coins or any cheap fee chain stable-coin!, as through any payment processor you like, or just simply A bep20 address!


Hello, for the sake of transparency we are accepting donations only through opencollective atm, and while they support crypto, they don’t support anything on the BNBChain yet. (yeah that’s unfortunate, since it would make a lot of sense to use it …)

If you still wish to donate, the most straightforward alternative might be Polygon since it is supported by several DEXes and it is possible to do cross-chain swaps from BNB/BNBChain to MATIC/Polygon (eg. on Rango Exchange (dex)).

If you are donating from a centralized exchange you might also consider converting the donation to LTC or DOGE, as they both have low transaction fees and the donations are in any case converted automatically to USD by opencollective, so it won’t matter which crypto we receive.


Ok, Sorry didn’t see that

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