How does this statement from Oracle affect jME?

This sort of reminds me of Visual Basic. Microsoft tried to put a silver steak through the heart of VB more than once and yet it still lives on , 24 years and counting. Java is far more popular than VB and used on billions of machines. You’ll will see Java programming , even if it’s not from oracle , for years to come.

Maybe they just could not afford the top Java language designers any longer.
If that’s the case then maybe they will vanish soon and be bought like Sun was before.
The ridiculous lawsuit against Google might just be another indicator for that (it is a weird story).
Those radical measures are always a sign - a healthy company has much more self-confidence.

Too bad that we don’t have an Oracle that tells the future.
I guess some of their “priests” already know it - they just don’t tell us… :chimpanzee_wink:

To meet the Oracle, you must first praise the Sun.

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Good one :smiley:

Don’t forget the visual basic ^^ I have here some VB6 50 years old dinausaurs that don’t even know how to spell OOP.

About Java, more generaly, it’s been a while since Java appears to be the next COBOL I’m afraid… I don’t intend to troll, it’s just a personal opinion.

If Java will be the next COBOL, I wonder who will be the next Java

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NodeJS, and then people will start coding in Scratch. The end is near.

People already started using scratch, but not the scratch you expect, there is Enterprise solution that delivered using BPML, and Workflows product, it is not 100% codeless, but it is more into scripting than actual code glued using Graphical Process modelers.

Aaah the joys of scripting and making code nobody else in the world will ever be able to decypher.

Change for change’s sake and the flock follows. Oh look, it’s shiny! It’s the equivalent of high level managers that take the look of a prophet and tell us we need to decentralize because blabla just to be replaced later on by another one that tells us we need to centralize because blabla. Disgusting and pathetic.

edit: it’s a rant against inefficiencies due to change for change’s sake… not an attack on you Ahmad or anybody else here.

It’s not about the specific language it’s about the mindset.

If you are worried about learning a language because it might disappear in half a decade or (likely) much longer then you are the next COBOL programmers. The fear that you might have to learn another language someday is what defines you as such. It’s probably really unfair (and a bit insulting ;)) to compare Java to COBOL at the language level.

I’m sure that COBOL was a very efficient langage at its time, as Java is today. But don’t you think Java become monolithic with time passing? Even C# seems to be more able to adapt to new programming paradigms. I hate to say that (imho) Java accumulates backwardness.

That’s exactly the reason why i like java. See other languages like python or javascript, everyone uses his own standards and the resulting code is often a chaotic mix of styles and you waste more time understanding how things are written than what they do. Strong standards plus the verbosity is what makes java good for big projects.

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All of that is very arguable. A bunch of the stuff that C# has that Java doesn’t, I hate hate hate and would burn in fire. At least half those things I can point to real world damage that having such a ‘convenience’ feature can cause in real life.

But anyway, it’s beside the point as COBOL was a very limited language ON PURPOSE from day one. It did not accumulate its limitations as development moved on, it was born with them for a specific reason. Much like the original BASIC.

I do think it’s great (and I mean this really) that we’ve moved so far beyond COBOL in “real space” that no one really knows anything about it anymore.

You can program anything in Java. It may not always be the best language for the job but it will do the job. That was never true for COBOL. Else it would have evolved into something else like other older languages (LISP anyone?).

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Hi

As an example, JOGL was a community project, it became a project backed by Sun and later by Oracle and it became a community project anew after Oracle abandoned it. It rocks and it’s still alive now :smile:

Some cool things can go on living without the intervention of companies and states. Most of the development effort is done inside OpenJDK anyway.

Dont worry guys!! I plan on buyin java from oracle and I wont let it die , all I need now is to get the millions of dollar I need :wink:

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Let’s get java kick started guys :stuck_out_tongue:

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Jao guys, Java is not going anywhere. :smile:
It is the second most used language on the world. Stop worrying about this. :smile:
There is too much people on the world that care about Java and its syntax and everything that makes it so cool. Just look at us. :smile:
Trying not to bash JME at all (because we all know it is a great engine!), but I know I maybe wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for Java! :smile:

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This is the last thing I want to see right now. I literally just finished a Java 2D game engine! No worry, even if Oracle stops supporting it, Java still has us developers that still use it.