Voxel game project: Rituals of the old


#142

I’ll post this here too in case some 3D modelers / multitalented people are lurking:

We are looking for a 3D modeler superhero! Read more below.


#143

I feel you so much, Got the same problem… Not to bash on them but on 20 peoples, i couldn’t find 1 reliable person yet :confused:

Ended making a Geometry Procedural Generator to make Billion of different tree type and shape.
And my game is now working with a Building maker where you build structure by hand.


#144

That sounds very cool.

I’ve also been thinking about building trees procedurally - from blocks. The branch angles, tree length, thickness, branching etc would be entered in and the procedural generation would create trees based on this which would resemble their real life counterparts. And to make it easier for the world generation we could, for example, pre-generate these tree models - for example 20-100 variations per tree and save the models. So a compromise between being completely organic and random generated in real time and between being efficient and looking pretty much random.


#145

yup thought exactly about the same thing, saving them for later use. But not saving them would save HDD space if you have for 20GO of model, and it is possible to send the generation in Multi thread and might end quicker to just generated then load on the HDD.

Anyway this is speculation of performance, Depend on your RIg for the best performance. Anyway good luck with your project! :slight_smile:


#146

I don’t think HDD space is really a problem with modern computers. What matters more is the speed at which you can transfer voxel data over the network. And this is where pre-generated things come in real handy. You basically only have to create them once and send the configurations over and then if the data is unmodified it’s simple enough to refer to them very tersely.

Also it might be a helpful approach in other scenarios such as with seasons … but there might be better solutions to that. Anyway. It’s always helpful to know where things are and what their shape is instead of everything being 100% “anonymous” voxel data that you have to iterate over to do interesting things.

The best of luck with your project as well, my good sir.


#147

Of course i am using a Seed so every player generated the same trees and rock then only download an Array of Int/Char (Whatever i might use).

But my point is I personally am tired of non ending loading and loading on the HDD is so slow (No SSD since we will consider a game of 50 go and normal user pc) If you consider a CPU can generate over 1000 Trees in 5s VS loading them in 30 sec, The choice is quite easy. Loading the cpu is worth it more and the only thing the user need is Lots of ram :stuck_out_tongue:. Also you could just wait for the Model request to generate in Concurrency the missing model then snapping it to the Node once loaded.

There is many way of doing this. Maybe for you doing 1 single file with all the models might be a better idea since you were talking about small number. To me i m talking about big tree with lots lots lots of vertices :O.

Benchmark will tell me when my Generator is 100% complete. Right now it s extremely quick to make trees trunk with lots of polygone. I might lets you know once i m there how much space generating them take once there.


#148

Sounds interesting. Looking forward to it :+1:


#149

Testing connecting blocks with old textures. Gonna replace these eventually with PBR textures.


#150

Trying out some leaf designs for trees.


#151

Progress on horse model.


#152

Poll on drugs and alcohol in our game is up in case you have an opinion on the subject:
https://www.ritualsoftheold.com/community/d/59-intoxicants


#153

Grass test. Here we have a grass field composed of grass models with 5 planes (10 tris) and grass models with 6 planes (12 tris).


#154

Trying out the voxel renderer on the new NVIDIA 2018 paper “A Ray-Box Intersection Algorithm and Efficient Dynamic Voxel Rendering” (http://www.jcgt.org/published/0007/03/04/).

We don’t have yet texture support or any optimizations in place.

Very interesting stuff.

What you’re looking at is a 1024x1024x1024 block static test scene with traditional polygon orb mesh intersecting with the voxel plane.


#155

The work on the IK is going forward. A bit buggy still :sweat_smile:


#156

Martha the carrion spirit by Kreaptuus. Concept art bust model.

On unrelated note I’ve been learning Kotlin for the past few weeks.

I do have to say I like it. I don’t have much programming experience with Java/Kotlin. My ultimate goal is to become more useful in the coding department in addition to everything else I do. I don’t expect to become an amazing coder or to be able to write low level code, but I do have a solid grasp of logic.

Unfortunately most of the tutorials assumed I already knew Java very well, and it has been making learning the language more difficult. I find myself alternating between Java and Kotlin tutorials.

I became bored with tutorials after a few days and decided to write a random name generator as my first practice work. I thought it would be somewhat practical and useful. I’ve also been learning IntelliJ IDE, Gradle, and Git. I implemented JSON database support by using the Moshi library via Gradle - which turned out to be much more difficult to do than I had anticipated! Possibly due to my limited understanding of Kotlin.

But it’s working now.

Here’s the code below if you want to give me some constructive tips or trash talk about how badly it’s written or proclaim Java’s superiority over Kotlin :sweat_smile:

Random name generator:
https://pastebin.com/iRNGur6F

syllables.json:
https://pastebin.com/RTbs2ybt

What do you think?


#157

For my taste it was badly written and Java is superior to Kotlin :wink:

Anyway, how is the game progressing? Alpha, beta, …? Any playable stuff yet or any demos?


#158

Thanks for the useful constructive feedback. I will take your words of wisdom to my heart and use them to become a better coder!

Game is progressing very slowly now. Our lead coder is starting his military service. We’re down to only one coder who is working on the project on his free time after work.

It’s a very unfortunate situation. Finding Java coders for a hobby project seems next to impossible. We’ve been looking for coders now for over two years and while we get some from time to time most of them don’t really have the required skills right from the start and almost all of them lose focus when they find it hard and quit.


#159

It took much longer than I initially anticipated, but I had a talk with our lead coder and he finally agreed that we can open source and publish our (unfinished, WIP) voxel engine, Terra. We released it under MIT license.

It’s still missing a ton of optimizations and features, but AFAIK the test “game” should be working.

If you’re curious you can find it here:

Hopefully this will help us find some new collaborators and team members. But… we’ll have to see what happens.


#160

Not to be discouraging–but have you considered scoping down to a smaller project? Most of the game programmers who will have enough experience to be useful to you will have worked on one or more “dream project”, and have been burned by how difficult they are to complete. Open-world games and voxel games in particular have a bad reputation as being somewhat intractable, and I suspect that many programmers will run away from that. Finding a less ambitious project might allow you to assemble a functioning team and release. If you get particularly lucky, the team will want to stay together and try something as ambitious as an open-world voxel game afterwards.

I wish you luck either way. :slight_smile:


#161

Well, considering that I spent 4 years in pre-plan and 6 months in picking the technologies, building the team, etc. I have to say - the thought has crossed my mind.

When we started out we knew very well it was one of the more difficult things you can do in game development. We already knew and weighed in the mental stress, changes in people’s personal lives over the course of the several years we knew the project was going to take. We even considered for a time how we would handle things like death if someone in the dev team died before we were able to finish.

So, yeah. We thought about all that and more.

And we still were stubborn enough to go ahead and proceed with the project and the considerable monetary investments it was going to require over the years - even with all the red flags waving.

Do I ever think “Oh, I wish we had done a fucking 2D game instead of this”? Yeah, of course I think about that from time to time. But I also knew with 100% clarity what I was getting myself into.

I get depressed from time to time from working on the project ~8-15 hours per day. Time I could be spending with my family and kids. I watch them grow up around me - and I’m still working on the game. And they will be teenagers before I’m finished.

How do I handle the pressure, mood swings, and criticism? I handle it like a pro, because this is absolutely what I want to do with my life. I can’t think of anything better.

When I get depressed or mentally strained from working on one thing for too long -> I switch my focus on another aspect of the game. When I get tired with that -> I switch my focus again to distract my mind.

On my down time I do research for the game, or I play games or watch movies which have something to do with the premise of our game, or I go out for a walk and take reference photos for the game, so I can constantly learn and move forward even while I’m resting. And I write down ideas from my dreams. I have been thinking about this all the time for 6 years. I’m obsessed about this.

That which is not moving - is dead. There’s only one way, and that’s forward.